Proof of an Afterlife?
February 19, 2010
Do you believe near death experiences are PROOF of an afterlife?
Many researchers do……and Dr. Long is no exception.
He’s recently compiled over 1300 accounts of near death expereinces into a best selling book and he shares his thoughts here with controversial FOX talk show Bill O’Reilly.
Check it out below…….& see if you find it as convincing as many others do. (research like this is going on all the time, and while not reported often by the media, often forms the CRUX of the very best and most compelling evidence that life continues on after physical death.
(that and communications from psychic mediums who often share information NO ONE knew…….yet later, is verified to be true)
All very cool stuff……and if you’ve got an open mind, is pretty compelling to boot!
Enjoy!
BAD News! Why Many Live Psychic Readings are So Expensive (Even When They Claim They’re FREE)
February 2, 2010
Why are so many live psychic readings so expensive?
And why do I end up paying for readings that are supposed to be free? Is it a scam……or am I simply NOT paying attention?
- Any of these questions sound familiar? They probably do, if you……
- Have called a free psychic service, only to find yourself paying a hefty fee when it’s done
- Are sick and tired of being taken advantage of by ads and offers and sound to good to be true (only to find out they’re not)
- Are willing, able and READY to pay a fair price for a great reading that you WON’T regret (and never will forget!)
- Have a genuine need to talk to a psychic…and simply want to find ONE service that really DOES what it promises to do!
Here is the truth about "free" live psychic services…….
They’re rarely good…and never free! If you think about it logically, there is no way a professional service that advertises, and pays premium professional psychics can give away their services for nothing…even if you think they should..:-) The unfortunate truth about these style readings is that they use the "free" offer as a lure, or as bait to bring in customers. They usually will offer you a scripted, short reading for free…and then tell you that you need to pay to get more in depth information or insight. And of course, many people WILL, once on the phone, proceed to the higher priced services which can be dramatically overpriced and a general rip off if you ask me!
The RIGHT way to get a genuine psychic reading is pretty simple……
Look for fairly priced services which offer outstanding psychic readings. STOP trying to get "something for nothing" and recognize that if you want to talk to a real psychic, that they don’t work for free! (nor do most good ones appreciate the idea that many people think they should..:-) The truth is, you CAN get an amazing, illuminating and incredibly informative psychic reading for a very fair price and often for less than 20 or 30 dollars.
My advice is quite simple: If you aren’t quite ready to budget a few dollars for a genuine reading, simply save up and wait until you can, rather than getting in OVER your head on a psychic service that offers one thing…and then charges you for another. (and trust me…I learned this the hard way myself!)
Can Mediums Talk to the Dead? The Astonishing Truth About After Death Communication (No Joke!)
January 25, 2010
Do mediums really talk to the dead, or are they simply making it all up?
Is after death communication a possibility at all…..or simply wishful thinking by those of us who’d like to believe that life continues on after our physical bodies end? In this article we are going to take a quick and insightful look at mediums who purport to talk to the dead….and see if we can’t shine a bright and illuminating light on this amazing phenomena! Curious to know more? Great…..continue reading as we take a closer look below!
Is there any real PROOF that mediums talk to the dead…or is it all just wishful thinking?
The truth? There is an ABUNDANCE of proof that after life communication is not only possible…..that there are MANY gifted mediums who can facilitate this with some degree of ease. Even MORESO than mediums alone, though…….there is actually an abundance of evidence that supports the idea that AVERAGE people, with NO psychic skill, can make contact with loved ones who have passed on…….without doing anything exceptional whatsoever.
As a matter of fact, near death experiences, out of body experiences, crisis apparitions, (when the spirit of someone JUST deceased appears, impossibly……. to another person many miles away) death bed visions, after death communications (called ADC’s), past life memories, and of course…..the impressive history of many gifted mediums throughout history, ALL point to the obvious truth that our spiritual selves, or some "part" of our essence, actually leaves the body and survives physical death.
When you actually look at the totality of the evidence….it’s actually FAR more reasonable to believe that we have a spiritual self that continues on after death.….and CAN communicate with those left behind, than it is to believe that EVERY experience above over the course of human history has been a mistake, a lie, or a hallucination.
What do Mediums actually do?
It depends on the medium. For example, famous psychic medium John Edward likens it to having a conversation with someone at the bottom of a pool….or behind a heavy glass door. You can make our much of the sounds, and see shapes and figures, but it’s often difficult to understand EXACTLY what is being said, or make out very distinctive physical characteristics. In other cases…..the energies come through very clearly, without any trouble, and communicate is a very concise and easy to interpret fashion…and many of these cases are the STRONGEST evidence that life continues on that we have.
Are all mediums created equal?
Absolutely not! Some mediums are very "tuned in", and others really have to struggle to be accurate or pick up information. I’ve been fortunate enough to have MANY outstanding readings in my day……and the truth is, there is NOTHING more reassuring that life continues on after death than having a real reading with a genuine medium who simply gets stuff "right"!
Nothing can replace personal experience…as I started out many years ago as a skeptic as well. But when you are offered real evidence that your loved ones are still close by…..and you get authentic PROOF that this is true, it totally revolutionizes what you believe is possible, and your perspective on life, death and everything in between to boot!
Ready to get your own first hand experience? Talk to a genuine Psychic Medium Right Here!
Talk to the Dead – 3 Techniques for Communicating with the Other Side You Have to Experience to Believe!
January 19, 2010
Do dead people talk?
If they do……how can I talk to the dead? Sounds like a pretty silly proposition to many, I know..:-) But the truth is, people have been talking (and listening) to the dead for hundreds of years, and to dismiss the whole thing as silly, or a fantastical fabrication of phoniness would be EQUALLY as silly as believing all of the many amazing messages that have come through in the better cases.
The fact is….there are MANY genuine mediums who do amazing work that simply can’t be explained away by conventional science.
But even more importantly….there are many interesting ways that YOU can prove to yourself that the “dead” are close by….and would love to chat..:-)
For some super simple techniques for talking to the dead, check out the short article below by famous intuitive to the stars (and scientists alike) Laura Day….a high profile author, speaker and psychic intuitive who is known to be a friend and confidant to MANY of the rich and famous…from Wall Street to Hollywood and beyond. (and is a favorite of Brad Pitt, Oprah Winfrey, Deprak Chopra and more)
Read the full story at the link below the post….and enjoy practicing communicating with the other side. (it may be A LOT easier than you think!)

This time of year we all get weird and nostalgic. We want to believe there is more to life and even, well, after life. We seek guidance, and assurance that we are not alone. Here is some strange but very real investigation that you can try by yourself and with friends this holiday season to communicate with the dead.Skeptical? Me too. Don’t ask me how this is possible. I do it and I still don’t know. I do know that I get accurate information, but I’m still not convinced that it doesn’t just come from somewhere in the collective unconscious we all share. It sounds crazy, but I love doing this.
Of course, I keep it to myself, usually, so I don’t embarrass my family or get put away “somewhere safe.”You don’t have to believe in this for it to work, but if you don’t believe in it, do it for someone else because they will tell you how right you are.There are many ways to see, hear and feel the energy of someone who is dead.
You can go on forever about what you really perceive, but the fact is, if you follow my directions, you will get information that verifies that you are picking up on something that really exists and can be confirmed!
Talk to the Dead — Intuition Expert Laura Day Tells Us How (Really!) – Lemondrop.com
Psychic News – Uri Geller Sues CNN: (Did Anyone See This Coming?)
January 8, 2010
Today’s psychic news story looks at famed (or infamous, depending on your perspective) spoon bending sensation, Uri Geller and his recent legal wrangling with CNN over their story that intimated he “sold out” Michael Jackson for a free.
Geller is one of the world’s most notorious psychics…..and while there are lots of people who believe he is a fraud, I DO believe the evidence that shows he has some pretty special skills is substantial. (lots of legitmate, even skeptical scientists and researchers who’ve seen him up close…..are WELL convinced he does exactly what he claims -bend spoons, remote viewer extraordinaire, amongst other pretty impressive skills)
Check out the full story at the link below…..it’s NOT a big deal either way of course, but for those enamored with celebrity – Michael Jackson AND Uri Geller are amongst the most celebrated in their fields….of all time..:-) Enjoy!
Uri Geller is to sue America’s leading television news channel after it broadcast an allegation that he had betrayed his friend Michael Jackson for £100,000.The legal action is the latest controversy to emerge from the claims and counter-claims arising out of the events that followed Jackson’s death last year.
In his case for defamation, the psychic entertainer says he was victim of a vicious email campaign after Michael Jackson’s dermatologist publicly accused him on CNN of profiting from the controversial documentary of the pop star’s life fronted by Martin Bashir. Geller, a British citizen, is bringing a High Court action in the UK after failing to win an adequate apology from CNN for what he says are totally false and unfounded allegations.
Psychic sues over claims he betrayed Jackson – Entertainment – NZ Herald News
Are Online Mediums Real? A Quick Look at Psychic Mediums (online and off!)
January 6, 2010
In this blog post we are going to take a quick look at psychic mediums. There is really NO area in the paranormal “niche” that gets more support….AND scoffing, simultaneously…than mediumship! Why? Because many of us who have had the experience ourselves, of connecting with those who have “crossed”, can attest that it is one of the most profound and life changing experiences one can have.
But…..at the same time, it sounds so “nuts” to believe that are loved ones are somewhere ELSE, other than here..:-)
I know what I believe, simply due to the volume of research and personal experience I’ve had. I also know that many others do NOT believe, simply because they either haven’t had the experiences….or if they have, they’re so mind boggled that they simply can’t wrap their brains around the fact that it was genuine. (i.e. – someone cheated, etc)
Anyway…..we wrote this article earlier for an article directory and thought it may be worth re-printing here if you’re also interested in mediumship. (i’m guessing many of you are!) Article is below…and let us know what you think, too!
Have you ever considered trying to contact a deceased loved one? One of the worst experiences a person can have is losing someone that they love…..and the simple truth is, as bad as it hurts to admit, LOSS is a pretty big part of life. But what if you could contact those that you love on the “other side?” Do you believe it’s possible? I certainly do….and for hundreds of years, many thousands of people have done just that, through all sorts of ‘paranormal’ means.
For example…..
Mediums who contact the dead have been around since recorded human history has been around! Every culture has them….and while they may be referred to by different names in each, what they purport to do….is the same. Are there fakes, frauds and imposters amongst the bunch? Absolutely, there are! But of the thousands of mediums who have brought back hundreds of thousands (or even millions) of messages that have given GREAT comfort to all sorts of people since the dawn of time….are there any amongst them who were real? You would be foolish NOT to believe if you looked at the overwhelming evidence….and the impossibility of some of the information they’ve brought “back”..:-)
Here is the thing……
I’ve had tons of readings in my life….some SO incredibly powerful and eye opening, that they’ve literally changed what I believed was possible. (I used to be a hard core skeptic) But you ‘ve got to be careful when you pick a medium to visit, because while there are lots of good ones out there, the simple truth is that there are far more that are fakes, frauds or even well meaning folks who simply DON’T have the sorts of skills they believe themselves to have.
Here is the key to getting a good reading, and make GENUINE contact with someone you want to ’see’ on the other side……
Be open minded! Skepticism is great, but not to the point where it shuts you off from having an experience that changes you perspective on what’s possible.
Be level headed, too! Don’t let your overwhelming urge to make contact compromise what you feel in your gut. If a medium doesn’t ’sound’ authentic, or you don’t believe the information coming through is real…..let it go and move on. I’ve had plenty of authentic experiences, but they’re intermingled with many ‘misses’ too!
Set the stage! (spiritually speaking) Talk to the person you want to contact before you call….or visit the medium. This is a great way to ‘ask’ for verification that you
can actually validate during the reading. Just take a moment….and say – “I’m calling this psychic….or visiting a medium today..and if you don’t already know, I’d love for you to be there when I do..;-)
Sounds hokey….I know, but some of the BEST verification and validation I’ve received personally that this stuff is real, has come through asking for “proof” right before a reading has begun! (and believe it or not……often, ask and you SHALL receive..:-)
The Bottom line is this…..
Many people reading this right now believe ALL of the above is silly…and that you CAN’T make contact with someone once they’re gone. (because they believe….there is nothing TO make contact with after death)
I say they are wrong.
Not simply because I want it to be true…but simply because I’ve had an avalanche of personal experience which has forced me to face the fact that we DO survive death, and that are TRUE essence is NOT the physical body, and that you can prove that to yourself simply by exploring this for yourself! (and a great place to start is talking to a medium!)
What are Psychic Mediums? (and How are Mediums Different Than ORDINARY Psychics?)
December 5, 2009
What is a psychic medium? How are they different from ordinary, regular psychics? Have they been studied by science……and if so, by whom? Lots of these questions come up pretty regularly by our readers, and it should be NO surprise that lots of opinions differ! (and wildly at that)
Here is a short article on psychic mediums, and some of the various ways they’ve been studied by science, as well as some of their unique distinctions amongst psychics in general. Check out the full post at the link below…and enjoy!
What is a Psychic Medium Anyway?Honestly? It’s a special sort of psychic, who purports to be able to communicate with the “other” side. Mediums often do NOT have typical psychic abilities either, as in…they are LESS likely to predict your immediate future, comment on your career, or other more stereotypical psychic stuff.(although they certainly CAN, it simply depends on whether or not the messages they are gleaning from your loved ones are sharing those facts!) All psychic’s certainly are NOT mediums, and only a very small fraction of mediums are really very good at all! (although once you get a great reading with a genuine medium, you WON’T ever look at life quite the same way again)
Psychic Mediums – Do Mediums Have Special Psychic Powers? (Shocking but True!)
Is Death the End? Mediums Who Talk to the Dead Reveal the Shocking Truth About the Afterlife
December 4, 2009
Is death really the end…or does the soul or spirit continue after we die? Does heaven really exist….or it simply a man made idea that we tell ourselves to feel better?
Are these questions you ever ask? If so….obviously, you are NOT alone! As a matter of fact, in my experience, there is NOTHING that’s more interesting, enlightening or more intriguing than the questions about the ultimate nature of things, and this is a big reason I’ve spent a lot of MY life researching psychic and paranormal phenomena.
Want to know the truth?
I say…forget about religion for a few minutes. Forget about god – or the bible or anything decisive like that. In MY opinion, some of the very BEST evidence for life after death comes from psychic mediums who speak to the “other side” and report back with remarkable accuracy many facts, details and descriptions that defy any conventional explanation OTHER than life continues….AFTER physical death. Curious to know more? Great…continue reading as we take a closer look below!
Filed Under: Mediums and the Afterlife
Did you know that many mediums have been studied successfully by science, and have impressed even some of the most hard boiled skeptics and de bunkers the world across?
It’s true…and psychic mediums like John Edward, George Anderson and others have been studied by the University of Arizona, in the VERITAS program (which is Latin for truth) in bringing together believers and non believers alike within the framework of scientific inquiry into psychic powers. (and whether the afterlife can be proven) The results of these studies were SO shocking…they were actually made into a television documentary by HBO, called the “afterlife experiments”.
And while some skeptics who simply REFUSE to believe found fault with the studies….NEW ones are now underway, using TELEPHONE psychics and mediums, at the prestigious Wind bridge Institute in California, where contact with the “dead” is a pretty regular occurrence..:-) (and monitored closely by scientists and skeptics alike)
Did you know…for example, that there is CURRENTLY a huge international study of Near Death Experiences, called AWARE, being done in hospitals around the world, where people who report near death experiences in emergency rooms are being asked to describe EXACTLY what they’ve seen while out of their bodies? It’s true…and this is taking place today, in 2009…with major scientists, researchers and super smart folks across the world, all in an attempt to PROVE that people DO in fact have transcendent experiences at death that defy conventional scientific explanation.
The Bottom Line?
I started out as a skeptic…and have had numerous readings and sessions with psychic mediums that have completely changed my paradigm of possibility.
I now DO believe that you CAN contact deceased loved one and relatives (actually….there really ARE no dead, at all..:-) you can expand and explore your consciousness and awareness in THIS life, and you can change your life for the better, simply by beginning the adventure for yourself!
How to Talk to the Dead: 5 SIMPLE Tips and Techniques For Contacting Spirits That Really DO Work!
November 9, 2009
Who else is trying to talk to the dead? If you are anything like the vast majority of people who enjoy our articles and comment on our content, the simple truth is that you probably have one BRAVE hand held high, right?
Nothing is more controversial than the topic of afterdeath communication, and as someone who has spent a fair amount of time researching the subject, and immersing myself in personal experiences, i can tell you first hand that you often have to wade through LOTS of “muck” to find the magic, mystery and miraculous.
But when you do……. your WHOLE world changes in an instant.
It’s true….and there is simply NOTHING more exhilarating, more exciting and more life changing than making authentic contact with a deceased loved one, or spiritual being on the “other side”.
So are ALL techniques for talking to the dead created equal?
Absolutely not. And not all methods work every time, for everybody. The key is to simply BELIEVE it’s possible. Open your mind. And your heart. You’ll be amazed at what will come in once you do.
With this in mind, let’s take a look at some of my FAVORITE techniques for making contact with the other side, and how just about ANYONE with the will to see it through can have a transformational, and transcendent experience with a wee bit of practice!
Mirror Gazing:
Yes, this is one of the oldest, (and little known) techniques for making contact with spirit. Any reflective surface is actually amenable to this, but mirror’s tend to work best. Remember, this is NOT some “new age” technique…as ancient civilizations, Native Americans and all sorts of other deeply spiritual cultures have been using water or “well” gazing and divination for the very same purpose, dating back to our earliest historical records. And Raymond Moody, the pioneering researcher and author of the famous book “Life after Life”, is SO impressed with this method that he’s actually built a “psychomanteum” where he demonstrates the incredible power of this process. (and wrote a book called “Reunions” highlighting the power of this practice)
Ouija Board Work:
Don’t laugh…this can be amazingly powerful. I was a skeptic, until I had an amazingly impressive experience that would be difficult to explain away using conventional science. (or the unconscious motor movement that most skeptics argue is happening here as well)
Seance’s:
Ever been to one? I have. And many of them are complete and utter duds. But all you need is ONE where incredible things happen to PERMENANTLY shape and change your belief system completely. And while it’s a good idea to have an idea “what you’re doing”……a good seance is a very powerful experience, and one where tens of thousands of ordinary people have had EXTRAORDINARY experiences with spirits, deceased loved ones and all sorts of ethereal entities and intelligence’s. (and that includes many ONCE skeptical scientists as well!)
Deep Meditation and Prayer:
Yes, this is a great opening to the infinite, and if you are committed, one of the very BEST ways to open yourself up to the magnificence of your true nature, and the enduring nature of ALL those you have loved and lost as well.
Psychic Mediums and Readings:
Probably the EASIEST way for ordinary people to have an immediate “glimpse” into the eternal nature of the soul. Many famous (and even more NOT so famous) psychic mediums have offered hundreds of thousands of us the HOPE and practical PROOF that our loved ones are with us always. My own interest (and belief) in the afterlife came about this very way….and one reading, almost 20 years ago totally changed my life, (and what I believed was possible) in less than 30 minutes.
If you are looking for the same “proof”, have an open mind and a curious spirit, the very SAME can (and will) happen for you, I promise!
What is a Psychic Medium?
October 23, 2009
What is a psychic medium anyway? Do they talk to the dead……are they simply putting me on? And how can I tell if they’re real or not before I hire one? In this article we are going to take a quick and insightful look at psychic mediums, and see how you can get a REAL reading, from an authentic energetic empath, quickly and easily and affordably to boot. Ready? Great…continue reading as we take a closer look below!
Filed Under: Psychic Mediums Defined
Any person who purports to speak to the dead…and offers REAL information that seemingly would be impossible to explain, any OTHER way than they are actually talking to the “other side”.
Filed Under: Alternative Explanations
Honestly? Die hard (no pun intended..:-) skeptics like to say that mediums are simply “cold reading” or guessing. And truthfully, some are. (even maybe most) But the fact remains, there is UNQUESTIONABLY a large group of psychic mediums who have been studied, under the strictest possible conditions, and who are offering up information that is simply IMPOSSIBLE to explain away as fraud, guessing, or cold reading. (especially when the “client” is only offering yes or no answers, is on the phone many miles away, or sitting behind a screen or divider to make body language reading impossible as well)
Alternative NON Skeptical Explanations?
Stuff like “super-psi” – which many scientists believe are exceptionally advanced “psychic” mind reading abilities. Sounds pretty far fetched, right? It does…and it’s sort of funny that many ONCE skeptical scientists have to use this particular explanation, as an ALTERNATIVE to “talking to the dead”…..because the information many of these mediums are getting is SO amazing, they need to come up with some explanation that makes sense. (and they simply refuse to believe the obvious – which is actual communication with people who have crossed over and are STILL “alive” in a very real way!)
Check out our #1 Recommended Psychic Mediums Here……..and enjoy a mind boggling reading you will NEVER forget (and won’t regret!)
What Happens When We Die? An Up close and Personal Look at Near Death Experiences
October 16, 2009
What really happens when we die? Do we float away…..fast and furiously to a bright and loving light? Or do we simply fizzle out in shock, fear and fright? The fact that people HAVE near death experiences is NOT in debate.
Ever since Raymond Moody’s seminal book ” Life after Life” 30 some odd years ago, the conversation about the NDE has become part of popular culture. (while actual Near Death Experience STORIES go back way….way well back beyond Ray Moody’s book!)
While some skeptics and doctors tend to believe that NDE’s are caused by a lack of oxegen in the brain…..many experiencers, and other researchers, scientists and otherwise believe it is a REAL experience happening “out there” rather than “in here”..:-) (as in….your brain)
What do YOU believe happens when we die? I’m curious to know. Here is a link and excerpt from a feature story on today’s online version of CNN – where they talk to a pretty compelling case that the NDE is as powerful, profound and as life changing as it gets!
Check out the full account at the link below – and let us know what YOU believe (or not) is really happening when people leave their bodies, see the light and everything else.
Seemingly in good health and in good spirits, Geraghty was finishing up her late-morning run, transporting a student and teacher back to Newton South High School, when she realized she was in trouble.As she was pulling into the school parking lot, she began having sharp stomach pains. She was able to park her bus, but she kept feeling worse.The pain “went right up my arm and into my chest, and I said, ‘Uh-oh, I’m having a heart attack,’ ” she said.The teacher ran from the bus to get help. Newton South’s nurse, Gail Kramer, and CPR instructor Michelle Coppola arrived moments later with the school’s new automated external defibrillator.Geraghty, barely conscious, was fading fast. She was weak and having trouble breathing.
And then she went into full cardiac arrest.”Her eyes were wide, and all of a sudden she stopped talking to us,” Coppola said. “I grabbed the two pads, stuck them on her, started it up, and I’d say within 20 seconds, she had her first shock.”Coppola and Kramer performed CPR while they waited for paramedics. Video See an expert give a quick lesson in CPR »At that point, Geraghty says, her body died. She remembers watching the scene unfold — as if from above.”I floated right out of my body. My body was here, and I just floated away. I looked back at it once, and it was there.”Geraghty says she saw deceased loved ones, her mother and her ex-husband.’
“It was very peaceful and light and beautiful. And I remember like, when you see someone you haven’t seen in a while, you want to hug them, and I remember trying to reach out to my ex-husband, and he would not take my hand. And then they floated away.”Next, she says, she was overwhelmed by “massive energy, powerful, very powerful energy.”
Doctor says near-death experiences are in the mind – CNN.com
Do Ouija Boards Work? The Truth About Ouija Boards You MUST Not Miss At Any Cost
October 9, 2009
Do ouija boards work? Or are they simply a Parker Brothers board game for silly people who believe in sensational things for no good reason? I mean, can you REALLY talk to the dead through using a ouija board, or is it all just a wild bunch of bull?
Filed Under: Personal (and Paranormal) Experience Revealed
Let me be honest with you. Completely honest, upfront and sincere. I had an AMAZING experience with a ouija board about twenty years ago when I will finishing up college. And I was a total NON believer. A skeptic through and through.
But this experience, had in those wild and woolly hours between "late night" and dawn…..totally transformed what I believed possible about the power of spirit communication, and the use of a simple wood board to make it happen.
Filed Under: Science, Skepticism and Silliness
Many scientists and skeptics will tell you that the people USING ouija board are moving it themselves. That the desire to WANT to believe that a discarnate "hand" i is behind the board is so strong, that we "trick" ourselves into believing the impossible. I say they’re wrong. I say they ALSO haven’t experienced it for themselves. For if they did…..they’d offer up a wee bit better of an explanation than people are pushing the planchette themselves, without realizing it.
Filed Under: The Science of Subtle Energies
There are some decent alternative explanations that get into the weird and wacky science of subtle energies, or even some super sub conscious style stuff that "could" be behind some of the more compelling cases. (I’ll grant that many ouija board experiences are wacky and without merit)
But for mine, and some of the others I’ve read about and seen…….the magic and mystery of the paranormal path seems like a FAR better explanation than the ordinary ones offered up by the skeptical and scoffing..:-)



